There are a lot of new people subcribed to the mailing list, so here is a reminder and refresher of the rules of engagement. "On topic" discussion includes technical aspects of cryptosystems, social repercussions of cryptosystems, and the politics of cryptography such as export controls or laws restricting cryptography. We will end discussion when not much new is being said. Be polite in disagreement, etc. Not all discussions are valid on this list and there are other lists like Cypherpunks and Randombit where they may work better. In the course of a heated technical discussion where people have strongly held views, it is often tempting to get personal about things. However, this rarely improves the quality of a discussion. If you're having a technical discussion, and you mention the other party at all or address them directly at al, other than to acknowledge them or ask for clarification, something may be quite wrong. There are rare times when this rule fails, but usually, it is a good tip-off. Discussions unrelated to cryptography are considered off topic. Here's the periodic reminder from Perry of the rules of the mailing list. ============== We've got a very large number of participants on this list. To make the experience pleasant for everyone please: 1) Cut down the original you're quoting to only the relevant portions to minimize the amount of reading the 1600 people who will be seeing your post will have to do. 2) Do not top post. I've explained why repeatedly. Yes we know a lot of mail systems do this now. We don’t care. Don’t top post. 3) Try to make sure what you are saying is interesting enough and on topic. Minor asides etc. are not. The list is moderated for a reason, and if you top post a one liner followed by a 75 line intact original, be prepared to see a rejection message. _______________________________________________ The cryptography mailing list cryptography@metzdowd.com http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography

There has been a huge number of posts getting rejected lately for top posting. Please do not top post! -- There are a lot of new people subcribed to the mailing list, so here is a reminder and refresher of the rules of engagement. "On topic" discussion includes technical aspects of cryptosystems, social repercussions of cryptosystems, and the politics of cryptography such as export controls or laws restricting cryptography. We will end discussion when not much new is being said. Be polite in disagreement, etc. Not all discussions are valid on this list and there are other lists like Cypherpunks and Randombit where they may work better. In the course of a heated technical discussion where people have strongly held views, it is often tempting to get personal about things. However, this rarely improves the quality of a discussion. If you're having a technical discussion, and you mention the other party at all or address them directly at al, other than to acknowledge them or ask for clarification, something may be quite wrong. There are rare times when this rule fails, but usually, it is a good tip-off. Discussions unrelated to cryptography are considered off topic. Here's the periodic reminder from Perry of the rules of the mailing list. ============== We've got a very large number of participants on this list. To make the experience pleasant for everyone please: 1) Cut down the original you're quoting to only the relevant portions to minimize the amount of reading the 1600 people who will be seeing your post will have to do. 2) Do not top post. I've explained why repeatedly. Yes we know a lot of mail systems do this now. We don’t care. Don’t top post. 3) Try to make sure what you are saying is interesting enough and on topic. Minor asides etc. are not. The list is moderated for a reason, and if you top post a one liner followed by a 75 line intact original, be prepared to see a rejection message. _______________________________________________ The cryptography mailing list cryptography@metzdowd.com http://www.metzdowd.com/mailman/listinfo/cryptography